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	<title>Comments on: Do Outdoor Enthusiasts Go Shopping?</title>
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		<title>By: derrickM</title>
		<link>http://www.skilletcreekjournal.com/2010/travel/do-outdoor-enthusiasts-go-shopping/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>derrickM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you there. Many communities and smaller mom &amp; pops just don&#039;t get the exposure to the concepts and simply hope that main street, business hours, and an ad in the local paper will do it..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you there. Many communities and smaller mom &#038; pops just don&#8217;t get the exposure to the concepts and simply hope that main street, business hours, and an ad in the local paper will do it..</p>
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		<title>By: Tali</title>
		<link>http://www.skilletcreekjournal.com/2010/travel/do-outdoor-enthusiasts-go-shopping/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Tali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an excellent point. When we got into Baraboo for our dining night out it felt like a ghost town and I get that at other places too. While it may not be the intent the message is &quot;We don&#039;t want your business&quot;. 

With any other industry you have to adapt to reach a target audience. In this case, the people are there, they most likely want to use the services however they&#039;re not available when they need them. Adaptation and education paired with proper marketing can make it beneficial for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an excellent point. When we got into Baraboo for our dining night out it felt like a ghost town and I get that at other places too. While it may not be the intent the message is &#8220;We don&#8217;t want your business&#8221;. </p>
<p>With any other industry you have to adapt to reach a target audience. In this case, the people are there, they most likely want to use the services however they&#8217;re not available when they need them. Adaptation and education paired with proper marketing can make it beneficial for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: derrickM</title>
		<link>http://www.skilletcreekjournal.com/2010/travel/do-outdoor-enthusiasts-go-shopping/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>derrickM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another side note on the &quot;while it may not currently be a huge chunk of local business&quot;.. is simply how it affects business hours..  something like;

1)
park users: busy all day playing at the park
Local businesses: Open..

2)
park users: evening, ready to run into town
local business; closed

3)
local businesses try extended hours.. don&#039;t market heavily..
park users: don&#039;t know, don&#039;t show up

4)
local business.. see.. it&#039;s not worth it..

Go back to 1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another side note on the &#8220;while it may not currently be a huge chunk of local business&#8221;.. is simply how it affects business hours..  something like;</p>
<p>1)<br />
park users: busy all day playing at the park<br />
Local businesses: Open..</p>
<p>2)<br />
park users: evening, ready to run into town<br />
local business; closed</p>
<p>3)<br />
local businesses try extended hours.. don&#8217;t market heavily..<br />
park users: don&#8217;t know, don&#8217;t show up</p>
<p>4)<br />
local business.. see.. it&#8217;s not worth it..</p>
<p>Go back to 1.</p>
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		<title>By: derrickM</title>
		<link>http://www.skilletcreekjournal.com/2010/travel/do-outdoor-enthusiasts-go-shopping/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>derrickM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pizza!  I forgot about that.  When I worked at the park people would come down to the office looking for pizza delivery too.. Funny.  My impression as i did deeper into this is that the businesses of the most interest to park users are the ones that often don&#039;t do any marketing and the ones spending the advertising budgets are total turn offs to ah, well, I use &quot;outdoor types&quot; but it&#039;s more than that.  David&#039;s aside, &quot;when you can find them&quot; I think is important.   Which is on my task list for 2010. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pizza!  I forgot about that.  When I worked at the park people would come down to the office looking for pizza delivery too.. Funny.  My impression as i did deeper into this is that the businesses of the most interest to park users are the ones that often don&#8217;t do any marketing and the ones spending the advertising budgets are total turn offs to ah, well, I use &#8220;outdoor types&#8221; but it&#8217;s more than that.  David&#8217;s aside, &#8220;when you can find them&#8221; I think is important.   Which is on my task list for 2010. <img src='http://www.skilletcreekjournal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say, I was absolutely shocked when we had pizza delivered to ur campsite the first night I was at Devil&#039;s Lake. I am not used to that type of camping but after day of travel it was really nice to not worry about cooking, get a warm meal, and get to sleep early for a big day of climbing. I could see how this would be appealing to families as well as having restaurants and other shops available and welcoming campers by anticipating their needs. 

My friend Eileen, aka RockGrrl carries an awesome line of items that say &quot;Your Worst Nightmare is My Dream Vacation&quot; and for many outdoorsy types it&#039;s true. Our idea of dirbag bliss is something a lot of people would find a complete turn off if not torturous. However, the outdoors and camping is for everyone to enjoy and businesses that cater to all types by allowing for some comforts of home and a break from the sun and elements for a little shopping and time &quot;on the town&quot;, well I think it&#039;s just could business. 

While it may not currently be a huge chunk of local businesses revenue a little marketing and planning can help increase the influx of business for parks/campgrounds as well as the businesses that surround them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, I was absolutely shocked when we had pizza delivered to ur campsite the first night I was at Devil&#8217;s Lake. I am not used to that type of camping but after day of travel it was really nice to not worry about cooking, get a warm meal, and get to sleep early for a big day of climbing. I could see how this would be appealing to families as well as having restaurants and other shops available and welcoming campers by anticipating their needs. </p>
<p>My friend Eileen, aka RockGrrl carries an awesome line of items that say &#8220;Your Worst Nightmare is My Dream Vacation&#8221; and for many outdoorsy types it&#8217;s true. Our idea of dirbag bliss is something a lot of people would find a complete turn off if not torturous. However, the outdoors and camping is for everyone to enjoy and businesses that cater to all types by allowing for some comforts of home and a break from the sun and elements for a little shopping and time &#8220;on the town&#8221;, well I think it&#8217;s just could business. </p>
<p>While it may not currently be a huge chunk of local businesses revenue a little marketing and planning can help increase the influx of business for parks/campgrounds as well as the businesses that surround them.</p>
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		<title>By: derrickM</title>
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		<dc:creator>derrickM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah looking for reinforcement... I think there is a place for setting up communication channels for community leaders &amp; outdoor business leaders, park staff etc.,  I&#039;m pretty sure this is not the only area that get&#039;s blinded by the glitter dome in their area.. LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah looking for reinforcement&#8230; I think there is a place for setting up communication channels for community leaders &#038; outdoor business leaders, park staff etc.,  I&#8217;m pretty sure this is not the only area that get&#8217;s blinded by the glitter dome in their area.. LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: David Sweeney</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Sweeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Derrick,
Well, let me tell you where we don&#039;t spend money first. Water parks, mini golf, chain restaurants, movie theaters, indeterminate arty/crafty/trinket stores, &quot;Native American&quot; gift stores, T-shirt shops, overpriced antique shops, etc. Basically, anything you find in the Dells.

Where we do spend our money. farmer&#039;s markets, local butchers (when we can find them) local restaurants, used book stores, street fairs, Boy Scout pancake breakfasts, Firehouse spaghetti dinners, roadside firewood and veggie stands.

I think you can see the pattern here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Derrick,<br />
Well, let me tell you where we don&#8217;t spend money first. Water parks, mini golf, chain restaurants, movie theaters, indeterminate arty/crafty/trinket stores, &#8220;Native American&#8221; gift stores, T-shirt shops, overpriced antique shops, etc. Basically, anything you find in the Dells.</p>
<p>Where we do spend our money. farmer&#8217;s markets, local butchers (when we can find them) local restaurants, used book stores, street fairs, Boy Scout pancake breakfasts, Firehouse spaghetti dinners, roadside firewood and veggie stands.</p>
<p>I think you can see the pattern here.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael J. Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael J. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When my wife and I travel to state parks, or national parks, we like to camp because it&#039;s fun and it saves money.  That being said, camping isn&#039;t always cheap.  In order to keep what we need to load in the car to a minimum, we leave things at home knowing that we are going to have to buy them once we get to our destination.  Food is a perfect example.  Why pack a cooler full of food and let it sit in the car while we drive across the state, or county?  We will load up the cooler full of other camping supplies to save room and then stop at a local grocery store to fill the cooler once we arrive at our destination.  We will do the same with fire wood.  No point in hauling it with us when we know we can pick it up once we get there.  This is even more important now that the emerald ash borer is spreading across our state.

We will also visit restaurants on gift shops on our trips.  Sometimes it seems like we spend more time in town than we do in the park.  We try to find an ornament from place we visit to decorate our tree during the holidays.  It may not sound like much, but a cooler full of groceries, a couple meals at a restaurant, firewood, an ornament or two, bait if I want to go fishing, and lets not forget gas for the car all add up.

We are not dropping large amounts of cash at a time like some people do by getting a hotel room, or renting an ATV or snowmobile but we are spending money.  We are spreading it around in smaller amounts throughout the community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When my wife and I travel to state parks, or national parks, we like to camp because it&#8217;s fun and it saves money.  That being said, camping isn&#8217;t always cheap.  In order to keep what we need to load in the car to a minimum, we leave things at home knowing that we are going to have to buy them once we get to our destination.  Food is a perfect example.  Why pack a cooler full of food and let it sit in the car while we drive across the state, or county?  We will load up the cooler full of other camping supplies to save room and then stop at a local grocery store to fill the cooler once we arrive at our destination.  We will do the same with fire wood.  No point in hauling it with us when we know we can pick it up once we get there.  This is even more important now that the emerald ash borer is spreading across our state.</p>
<p>We will also visit restaurants on gift shops on our trips.  Sometimes it seems like we spend more time in town than we do in the park.  We try to find an ornament from place we visit to decorate our tree during the holidays.  It may not sound like much, but a cooler full of groceries, a couple meals at a restaurant, firewood, an ornament or two, bait if I want to go fishing, and lets not forget gas for the car all add up.</p>
<p>We are not dropping large amounts of cash at a time like some people do by getting a hotel room, or renting an ATV or snowmobile but we are spending money.  We are spreading it around in smaller amounts throughout the community.</p>
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